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i think the main problem is not lack of end game content.

the problem u just bored because u already reach max lvl and boring do raid again n again everyday.

if u compared SW with another MMORPG games, leveling here is really super easy and so fast. (1 week reach max level or some ppl less then 1 week).

anoteher games 1 level can take day mybe month or year.

and the games is still beta and sure they will not rush for lunch any update for new content (like new dungeons or another story quest).

just do anything u can for now for make ur gear more better (upgrading till +9, make soulstones lvl 9, re roll the stat till u get the best stat for u) so when new content up then u will be ready for that.

thats what mean about MMORPG games and always exist like that for 1 hit KO from boss if u make some mistake (even for 1 move & even with full GODLIKE gears up).

and like another experiance ppl say up there. every MMOs game have stage level (normal, hard, Manic).

if u still in middle learning go run normal (learn all about the dungeons from the maps, mobs, the boss (for the boss is the move, skill (which 1 is very often the boss use it and the dangerous one or 1 hit KO. if already know it learn again how to avoid it till u already used avoid that skill & 100% sucsses) u want to raid later @ manic) and before u master it that think never or dont try run for hard & manic (u will go upset or blame the games coz everytime u run always die). that level for expert n experiance ppl (with good skill & gameplay) and if still want run that level better run with experiance ppl first for get more advice for that. and try always bring healer for more good.

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I would never spend money into a game, thats still in beta

AND i would never support a greedy company like gameforge, they have to learn that they have to adjust to the playership.

If this game would be Black Desert, iam willing to spend 30€ for costumes, because they are nice and the quality is very high.

I Would also spend money for a subscription, to change character appearance or become benefits like xp increase or chance of bonus loot.

But... this? No way sir Gameforge. 25€ Costume Set, 18€ Hairstyles additionally Haircolor. Also items to restore Energy, safety items for armor... why there was no other publisher... Perfect World, NCsoft or something ._.

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No, just not ncsoft. PW maaaaaaybe, but than i look at Gigantic and i say no neithr

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love if if PW take part for this, and will sure that will be SW Internatinal.

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brother, the best solution looking another games to play without region block.

no need using VPN coz that will harm u and im sure the connection not really good.

many out there games like SW or more better without region block. try look @ some site with MMORPG online games list.

there really not alot good games out there if u wanted a good game u better off paying for a sub playing wow or ff14

wow no i dont want play that. ff14 yes i play that and some of my old games like PWI and Hero Online

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100% they will not listen any comment / complain even u cry @ this FORUM.

if the thread feel didnt suited what they want, CoMa or Mod will CLOSED the thread.

u all just waste ur time for something like this. THEY will never listen it and will never change anything with that.

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i know u are mad because of the ip block they do listen some things they dont have control over. Also they did say from the start this is not finally build of the game so we dont know what build we will get at offical release of the game jut wait and see give the time guys.

yea i think not only me (OCEA) but all ppl from non-EU/NA, didnt mean we hate the GF or ruined them reputation. the BAD MANAGEMENT that all. and for what u say about official release, im pretty sure 90% will like BETA and 10% only for fixing minor bug.

brother, the best solution looking another games to play without region block.

no need using VPN coz that will harm u and im sure the connection not really good.

many out there games like SW or more better without region block. try look @ some site with MMORPG online games list.

100% they will not listen any comment / complain even u cry @ this FORUM.

if the thread feel didnt suited what they want, CoMa or Mod will CLOSED the thread.

u all just waste ur time for something like this. THEY will never listen it and will never change anything with that.

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Can we close this thread since this is nothing more than hate once again..............................................................

i don't see where the hate xD ?

also this in the General Discussion

let everyone express them selves man xd

yea that true and plz dont think bad the topic about this THREAD.

we follow the FORUM rules. didnt insult or rasist or using bad word.

we just discuss like another thread (exmp : Energy Syste, IM Price)

and we didnt open this thread for attacking making bad reputation for english SW publisher.

we just want chance or give them some topic fot think again about to try take it or buy it the legal right or license from another publisher for SEA / OCEA so we can normaly playing english SW version from our region.

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i think gameforge can solve this if it buy the right for more countries but well it wont be for free Ofcourse xD

and that if the game owner agreed with that

what i did understand from there posts

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1. we got request to block some countries , we can't do anything about it we have to do it
2. if the game work for you be happy and don't tell us xD
3. but don't be surprised if you lost access to the game later

this what i did understand from this xD (witch i may be wrong!)

i think if gameforge can tell you guys if they can buy the right for SEA or not

if they can that if a lot of players from SEA want to join the game i think they will open it as soon as they can

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I don't know much about how region contracts work but I think they'd probably need to have a long process to get SEA under their own rights, just sounds like a huge legal mumbo jumbo.

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i think that not really. what we want just we can access play this english version from our region SEA and OCEA(personaly i dont want using any 3nd programs for access coz dont want waste my money and get banned after) even with not SEA/OCEA server. just the access we can play normaly like before plyaing @ EN or another server already in there and we already thanks & happy for that.

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[all is personal opinion!!!]

i think gameforge can solve this if it buy the right for more countries but well it wont be for free Ofcourse xD

and that if the game owner agreed with that

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1. we got request to block some countries , we can't do anything about it we have to do it
2. if the game work for you be happy and don't tell us xD
3. but don't be surprised if you lost access to the game later

this what i did understand from this xD (witch i may be wrong!)

i think if gameforge can tell you guys if they can buy the right for SEA or not

if they can that if a lot of players from SEA want to join the game i think they will open it as soon as they can

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yea brother, sure they can and what u say is 1 of any of tht solution.

coz many of us SEA & OCEA wanting so bad playing this english version SW bcoz didnt have another publisher launching this game in our region yet till now.

and i like what u say and agree with that.

and for another ppl dont like or disagree with this thread plz didnt think we bad-mouth coz we not and dont want also.

we just want the detail because we already can play this ersion before for couple week and already like it play this.

and i think this what FORUM for if im not wrong...

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Nobody wants the game to fail or go down the drain - not the players, not Gameforge, nobody. If it's going to help their profitability they have reason to listen, and you need a playerbase who has faith to be profitable. Thus, they have reason to listen, and we have a responsibility to speak.

that true, but if u read many complain about many problem @ SW here before no much change. all go with T&C, legal right, agreement with another publisher. so they cant help it with that. that why i say about this price. just take it/buy it or leave it. simple like that.

Isn't the difference between those complains and the prices of the cash shop that there is not a contractual obligation for them to put those prices for the items?

nothing wrong with the prices i think, they the publisher and can put what price they want right?

if ppl start talking about that price so high / expensive so that complains right?.

You misunderstand. I didn't say they weren't complaints.

The difference is that there is no legal obligation for them, at least there is none thats known to us, to keep the prices that high. So, these complaints or feedback can actually help out in lowering the prices if Gameforge doesn't generate enough money from the cash shop.

Then again, you are partly right. They can put whatever price they want. Doesn't mean they should. If they have less income with higher prices but less sales, rather than lower prices and more sales, they'd want to switch to a more money-making system.

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yea i understand this. we can free say what we want and im agree with that and no problem. but sometimes some ppl if diffrent think they will like we talk bad or bad-mouth coz our opinion is diffrent, that already many ppl with this problem in another thread.

and this all good and this what mean FORUM for. for all (user & mod) plz dont think bad another ppl reason or opinion and about what they say. for mod or game publisher stuff, make sure listen this all and make some move and mybe lil more communication with another in every thread so we know the right answer (stay like this, will change the price & when) so we can move on and didnt reapeat many thread about this without have any single word about this issue.

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They don't have the rights to host the game in SEA or LATAM because Smilegate has the licensing for those regions. There is currently no SEA version but this just means that it is still on it's way. Honestly, the announcement clarifying why they IP blocked should be enough for you.

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why?

if they say dont have the legal rights to host for SEA/OCEA/LATAM then why first time till yesterday many off them can play?

this no joke issue.

we NON-UE/NA was think this ok coz since first time launch we can DL/PATCH & PLAY and didnt see and BS like this Region Block before.

i didnt mean wanna insult gameforge or another part or rasistic about this region issue.

but ths BAD MANAGEMENT and cant give the detail about this issue only can answer elgal right, T&C, agreement with another publisher. they just simple only say like that. why they just say it straight since first time OBT and make NON-EU/NA block cant access the register ,login & download page? and why after how many week this b.s excuse about region block coming up?

they sure will answer like before already answered and CLOSED this thread again.

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Smilegate asked them so they were contractually forced to comply. Earlier they were able to play but later Smilegate said no. Does that answer your skepticism?

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idk this the real reason or just excuse. if smilegate forced that i think we need think again, they didnt launch this SW yes why they need to do that? this just make smilegate reputation more bad and make many hatter for this and soon or later when they launch SEA/OCEA/LATAM SW already many ppl didnt want play this coz hate about this agreement (if this reason is vaild coz Smilegate asked them for this (because dont have any proof for that)). this still misterious or hidden reason for this.

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It's the real reason. They own those regions so they can say not to publish in those regions. It's simple and not difficult to understand without strings attached.

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sure if this this the real reason. btw have good day for u, happy n fun play ur SW games. and ty for ur nice companion with this chat.

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I never saw any post of GF that said SEA/OCEA/LATAM is part of their service area.

This is a beta meaning not everything is ready yet. That might as well include IP Blocks. There is no responsibility to take here. You guys just have to accept the harsh reality . Life isn't fair. If you think they broke some laws, go and find a lawyer.

Seriously those threads are getting extremely annoying. It's sad and all that but bad-mouth GF because of that is just simply childish and refusing to accept reality.

And just so you know, there are other games were player actually wish for a IP Block of said areas and GF does not do it. That makes those accusation even more ridiculous.

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hello brother, if u say this Beta yes this Beta but this Open Beta not Alpha or Closed Beta. And they no wipe and @ this stage the preperation for official launch is almost done.

and i think no bad-mouth coz me and another ppl in this THREAD didnt insult or use bad word for that.

we just asking and want the correct answer for this.

sure ik, i play mmorpg game since 2006 and ik. even they do ip block but they do that since first time launcing AT/CBT or OBT. already block all any acces for that game even the website since first.

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They don't have the rights to host the game in SEA or LATAM because Smilegate has the licensing for those regions. There is currently no SEA version but this just means that it is still on it's way. Honestly, the announcement clarifying why they IP blocked should be enough for you.

50-50 with this.

why?

if they say dont have the legal rights to host for SEA/OCEA/LATAM then why first time till yesterday many off them can play?

this no joke issue.

we NON-UE/NA was think this ok coz since first time launch we can DL/PATCH & PLAY and didnt see and BS like this Region Block before.

i didnt mean wanna insult gameforge or another part or rasistic about this region issue.

but ths BAD MANAGEMENT and cant give the detail about this issue only can answer elgal right, T&C, agreement with another publisher. they just simple only say like that. why they just say it straight since first time OBT and make NON-EU/NA block cant access the register ,login & download page? and why after how many week this b.s excuse about region block coming up?

they sure will answer like before already answered and CLOSED this thread again.

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Smilegate asked them so they were contractually forced to comply. Earlier they were able to play but later Smilegate said no. Does that answer your skepticism?

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idk this the real reason or just excuse. if smilegate forced that i think we need think again, they didnt launch this SW yes why they need to do that? this just make smilegate reputation more bad and make many hatter for this and soon or later when they launch SEA/OCEA/LATAM SW already many ppl didnt want play this coz hate about this agreement (if this reason is vaild coz Smilegate asked them for this (because dont have any proof for that)). this still misterious or hidden reason for this.

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I'm not going to rage at least. I do want to give suggestions for prices but I need a lot of time to actually write a comprehensive post on the subject. I was doing the same with the Energy System when this happened at ~3 AM

I will say that while nobody is forcing us to buy anything, it does leave players disrespected when the monetization system is geared towards people who can afford to throw $50-100 like they're nothing over the other 90% of the playerbase. At the very least, the average player deserves an opportunity to enjoy supporting the game and getting something they want without the prices taking the enjoyment away from what the monetization was designed to do. This happens regardless of if you're the kind of person who would spend $5 or $10 or $25 on an estimated monthly basis.

It's bad business for the bottom line and it makes the playerbase have less faith in the publisher, those are negative impacts

simple as another issue like energy system , energy used when dungeons kill or no kill the boss, region block. this shop price also. and what that?

just take it / buy it or leave it. Nothing gonna change even ppl cry about the price.

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Nobody wants the game to fail or go down the drain - not the players, not Gameforge, nobody. If it's going to help their profitability they have reason to listen, and you need a playerbase who has faith to be profitable. Thus, they have reason to listen, and we have a responsibility to speak.

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that true, but if u read many complain about many problem @ SW here before no much change. all go with T&C, legal right, agreement with another publisher. so they cant help it with that. that why i say about this price. just take it/buy it or leave it. simple like that.

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Isn't the difference between those complains and the prices of the cash shop that there is not a contractual obligation for them to put those prices for the items?

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nothing wrong with the prices i think, they the publisher and can put what price they want right?

if ppl start talking about that price so high / expensive so that complains right?.

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maybe it was part of a confidentiality agreement that the devs had made.

I mean they must have some reason as to why they can't give full detail and this is my guess.

what i think they have the hidden reason about this. why?

if this about agreement with another publisher and they can deal with that for couple week (coz before non ue/na can register ,dl, patch & play normal) and if they want and hear many SW player from NON UE/NA sure they can make move for make this EU/NA server get positive review and more ppl playing this game and more booming. like they make deal wht another publisher will not add region block till they publish for SEA/OCEA/LATAM mybe. And im sure they can do that if they want to.

this issue come because GAMEFORGE fault, didnt put that agreement since first time launch for register & DL game.

and they need take responbility for many ppl already spend much time & already love playing this version, not only just say sorry this all about license and agreement then BANNED non UE/NA. that like they run from the problem they make & this make they reputation more worse. and dont blame another part like Lion Games. coz this the deal they make it and they must take responbility for this, not the Lion Games.

even in the bussines area this worse bussines.

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Not one person has 'suggested' prices which they deem okay to buy...

There are a few mature people posting in this thread and not just raging like most because they understand this is a business for them and a game for us.

So repeating what the mature people said, if the prices are in fact 'too high' then people won't buy said items and they will adjust their prices. This is a company out to make money and pay their employees, not to satisfy your needs for the most kawaii character creations.

Comparing this to real life situation, you don't walk into McDonald's and scream at the cashier because you think the BigMac is overpriced do you? No you don't because everyone around will think you're out to lunch.

Bottom line is that nobody is forcing you to buy anything to advance your characters and the ONLY legit concern in this thread is the fact they messed up guild names and didn't fix them or give guild leaders one free guild name change to rectify it.

PS: I'm ready for people to quote me and rage because 'I'm sticking up for gameforge' even tho I'm not.

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I'm not going to rage at least. I do want to give suggestions for prices but I need a lot of time to actually write a comprehensive post on the subject. I was doing the same with the Energy System when this happened at ~3 AM

I will say that while nobody is forcing us to buy anything, it does leave players disrespected when the monetization system is geared towards people who can afford to throw $50-100 like they're nothing over the other 90% of the playerbase. At the very least, the average player deserves an opportunity to enjoy supporting the game and getting something they want without the prices taking the enjoyment away from what the monetization was designed to do. This happens regardless of if you're the kind of person who would spend $5 or $10 or $25 on an estimated monthly basis.

It's bad business for the bottom line and it makes the playerbase have less faith in the publisher, those are negative impacts

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simple as another issue like energy system , energy used when dungeons kill or no kill the boss, region block. this shop price also. and what that?

just take it / buy it or leave it. Nothing gonna change even ppl cry about the price.

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Nobody wants the game to fail or go down the drain - not the players, not Gameforge, nobody. If it's going to help their profitability they have reason to listen, and you need a playerbase who has faith to be profitable. Thus, they have reason to listen, and we have a responsibility to speak.

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that true, but if u read many complain about many problem @ SW here before no much change. all go with T&C, legal right, agreement with another publisher. so they cant help it with that. that why i say about this price. just take it/buy it or leave it. simple like that.

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They don't have the rights to host the game in SEA or LATAM because Smilegate has the licensing for those regions. There is currently no SEA version but this just means that it is still on it's way. Honestly, the announcement clarifying why they IP blocked should be enough for you.

50-50 with this.

why?

if they say dont have the legal rights to host for SEA/OCEA/LATAM then why first time till yesterday many off them can play?

this no joke issue.

we NON-UE/NA was think this ok coz since first time launch we can DL/PATCH & PLAY and didnt see and BS like this Region Block before.

i didnt mean wanna insult gameforge or another part or rasistic about this region issue.

but ths BAD MANAGEMENT and cant give the detail about this issue only can answer elgal right, T&C, agreement with another publisher. they just simple only say like that. why they just say it straight since first time OBT and make NON-EU/NA block cant access the register ,login & download page? and why after how many week this b.s excuse about region block coming up?

they sure will answer like before already answered and CLOSED this thread again.

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Nobody forces anyone to buy something is irrefutable. So it is clear that very few will buy in this store, hence the fear I have. Two things can happen:

1. - GF admits that it was wrong in the prices and it was simply a joke of some of its employees who placed an extra 0 to the items. So bring prices down to something more affordable.

2. - In truth the amount of people who buy and the GF winnings are too low to keep the game, so they decide to close it.

I really hope it's the first time

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no hope coz nothing gonna change xD

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Not one person has 'suggested' prices which they deem okay to buy...

There are a few mature people posting in this thread and not just raging like most because they understand this is a business for them and a game for us.

So repeating what the mature people said, if the prices are in fact 'too high' then people won't buy said items and they will adjust their prices. This is a company out to make money and pay their employees, not to satisfy your needs for the most kawaii character creations.

Comparing this to real life situation, you don't walk into McDonald's and scream at the cashier because you think the BigMac is overpriced do you? No you don't because everyone around will think you're out to lunch.

Bottom line is that nobody is forcing you to buy anything to advance your characters and the ONLY legit concern in this thread is the fact they messed up guild names and didn't fix them or give guild leaders one free guild name change to rectify it.

PS: I'm ready for people to quote me and rage because 'I'm sticking up for gameforge' even tho I'm not.

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I'm not going to rage at least. I do want to give suggestions for prices but I need a lot of time to actually write a comprehensive post on the subject. I was doing the same with the Energy System when this happened at ~3 AM

I will say that while nobody is forcing us to buy anything, it does leave players disrespected when the monetization system is geared towards people who can afford to throw $50-100 like they're nothing over the other 90% of the playerbase. At the very least, the average player deserves an opportunity to enjoy supporting the game and getting something they want without the prices taking the enjoyment away from what the monetization was designed to do. This happens regardless of if you're the kind of person who would spend $5 or $10 or $25 on an estimated monthly basis.

It's bad business for the bottom line and it makes the playerbase have less faith in the publisher, those are negative impacts

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simple as another issue like energy system , energy used when dungeons kill or no kill the boss, region block. this shop price also. and what that?

just take it / buy it or leave it. Nothing gonna change even ppl cry about the price.